So which family group do you belong to?
At first there was some logic to the groupings, but now so many groups have
been found to be linked,
the numbering system now seems almost random!
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Descent from John Palliser
(1578-1623) of Newby Wiske, North Yorkshire, yeoman |
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Naturally, this is my family group. There are
items about some of them within these pages, where they have entries in The
Dictionary of National Biography, and other published biographies. This group
originates in Maunby, in the parish of Kirby
Wiske near
Northallerton,
North Yorkshire. Until this
century, they were landowners, with younger sons going into the Church, Army
or Navy. Their progeny have been mainly in Ireland, London and Sussex
since leaving Yorkshire in the 1660s. From this group descends many of those
featured in the Dictionary of National Biography (entries of which are
repeated on this site), and also Charles Palliser, author of The Quincunx and
other novels. One branch also emigrated to Virginia in the 17th
century. |
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Descent from Christopher Palliser
(c1555-1624) of Kirby Wiske, North Yorkshire, yeoman (cousin to the above) |
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Group 2 stems from Group 1, but the break is in the late 16th
century. This Group remained in Kirby
Wiske, until the 1840s, one branch going through Canada, to the United
States, and another through London
to Australia, by (lack of?)
virtue of the family convict, who was transported for stealing five fowl.
Another branch went to Bedale
in North Yorkshire. |
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Descent from William Palister and
Edith Kirlew of Cawood, Yorkshire |
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Group 3 is a small group originating in Cawood whose tentacles spread
to Leeds. Descendants are in Canada and Australia. |
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Descent from Michael Palliser (bur
1796) of Sutton, North Yorkshire, innkeeper |
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This group descends from Group 10 (see below). Their known origins were
in Sutton-under-Whitestonecliff
and nearby Felixkirk
but they were later more widespread in the Wharfedale and Rawdon (Guiseley)
areas of West Yorkshire. Members of this clan have turned up in the United States. This group includes
Michael Palliser (1815-1904) who wrote his family history, but which was
published by his son in 1919. Group 5
has been merged with Group 10. |
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GROUP
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Unsorted Pallisers (etc)
originating in Thirsk |
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So many Palliser (etc) families moved in and out of Thirsk at
various points, that it is not always possible to link them to other groups.
For the most part, I have not actually investigated them, as yet, so some of
them may be linked. Some of these are currently being worked on, and a few of
them should be on my Rootsweb pages soon. |
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Descent from Nathaniel Palliser
(born 1823) of Brimham Hall, North Yorkshire, farmer, grandson of William
Palliser and Mary Grange. |
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This is a small group, concentrated round Hartwith near Kirkby
Malzeard, Yorkshire. The possibility was that this group is connected to
Group 14 but I feel they descend from Group 10. William Palliser and Mary
Grange married in Ripon, but Elizabeth, their daughter was born in Thirsk.
However, there is equally the possibility of this group having their origins
in Thirsk itself. While Nathaniel's children's births were all registered as
Palliser, the family abandoned the name of Palliser, in favour of Nathaniel
Palliser's patronymic, Addyman. His mother, Elizabeth Palliser, married John
Addyman after his birth. |
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Descent from Marmaduke Palliser
(Freeman of York 1684) whitesmith |
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The origins of this group were in York
and Sessay,
North Yorkshire, just a
few miles from Thirsk and
South
Kilvington. Most of the family stayed in the area, and some of them are
featured in a locally published diary, "William Metcalf, His Book",
which covers the closing three decades of the 18th century. One
line went to London, via Kent. From
the Kent group descend Sir
Arthur Palliser, the Second World War admiral; Sir
Michael Palliser, of the Foreign Office; the artist Anthony
Palliser, the actor Nicholas
Palliser, and the writer Peter
Palliser. |
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Descent from John Palliser
(married 1786) of Coxwold, North Yorkshire |
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This relatively small group abounded in the general Helmsley
area of Yorkshire. Descendants are still there today. |
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Descent from William Palliser (1714-1787)
of Sowerby, North Yorkshire, weaver |
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What was group 20, is the progenitor of the prolific Group 10, but they
are now combined. Their origins were in South
Kilvington, North Yorkshire,
only a few miles from Kirby Wiske. No link to Group 1 has yet been found by
me, but I'm sure the link cannot be that distant. This group stayed mainly in
this area of England, and descendants are still in the area today. Group 10
remained initially in Sowerby
by Thirsk, then spread to Northallerton,
where they made their name as builders, and from there to Australia , and the United State, where they also made
their name as builders and architects! Numerous descendants of this group
still live in Northallerton
and the surrounding area to this day. To this group belongs Herbert
William Palliser (1882-1963), the British sculptor; George Palliser,
Architect, quoted on the Bissell Architects site and Elmer
Palliser of America who was stranded on Cocos Island. |
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Descent from John Palliser
(married 1606) of Copt Hewick, near Ripon, North Yorkshire, yeoman |
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Group 14 is a large group originating from the villages around Ripon,
Yorkshire. They probably originated in Catterick, and may be a branch of
Group 1. Their family members abounded around Leeds
and stayed mostly in the area. However, one branch went to the USA late last
century, and they are predominantly in St Louis, Missouri. From this group is
historian Professor David Palliser
and young chess player Richard Palliser. There
are some Group 14 Pallisers mentioned in documents in John Wells genealogy pages.
Group 28 has been found to stem from this group, until this particular clan
took itself further north in the mid-19 th century, to the Durham
and Lanchester areas and was one of
the most prolific will-writing groups because, for many years, they had a
grocer’s shop in Consett, co Durham.
There are still descendants there today. |
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Descent from Richard Palliser
(married 1832) of London, saddler &harnessmaker |
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This family was a group of saddlers who lived in London early in the 19th
century. Richard Palliser, brother of George, however, emigrated to Tasmania,
leaving brother George behind. A descendant (non-Palliser) was one of the
first ladies to go up to Oxford University. From this group descends Arthur
Palliser, known as Jack, the Australian flying ace, who was from
Tasmania, and Florence Palliser, later the wife of Sir
Samuel Barrow of Surrey, and their son, Sir
Malcolm Palliser Barrow, of Salisbury (Harare), Rhodesia. This group is
now known to have originated in Sowerby by Thirsk, and has been merged with
Group 10. |
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Descent from John Francis Palliser
of Bristol |
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This family has its origins in Bristol but with London connections in
common with Group 2, specifically Thomas Street, Bethnal Green. I strongly
suspect that John Francis Palliser of Bristol is the same persons who was
baptised as Doctor Wilson Palliser in Stepney, London. 17 has been merged with Group 2. |
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Descent from Levi Palliser of the
Knaresborough area, Yorkshire |
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Within Palliser families, the Christian name of Levi is an unusual one,
so it is a fair bet that those with the name are probably of the same group. This
group descends from a batch of Pallisers in Farnham,
near Knaresborough,
Yorkshire, through an illegitimate line which descended from a branch that
was long in Ripley, near Ripon. This group may be the progenitors of all
Pallisers in England, but I am still working on that. |
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Various families from the
Scarborough area, unsorted |
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I have had a batch of emails from people researching Pallisers of the Scarborough
area. So far, I have not managed to link these Seamer/Ayton
families together, due to missing data, but I have linked them in one file. |
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Descent from John Palliser and
Mary Hambleton of Thirsk |
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I have had a batch of emails from people researching the clockmaker
Pallisers, who went from Thirsk to Hull and beyond. These have now been found
to descend from Group 10 and so have been merged to that group. |
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Descent from Robert Pallister and
Ann Woodhouse of Skelton by Guisborough, Yorks |
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Several grandsons of this couple from Skelton
by Guisborough emigrated to Michigan, USA before about 1850 |
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Descent from Robert Pallister
whose children were baptised at Cockerton, County Durham |
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This group originated in Cockerton, County Durham at some point being
at the Shoulder of Mutton pub. Some branches remained in County Durham and
Yorkshire, but others went to Australia. |
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Various families |
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Since I have been on the internet, I have become increasingly aware of
the numbers of Pallisers in the Catalonia area of Spain. There are probably
more Pallisers (that spelling) in the Spanish telephone books, than there are
combined Pallisers and Pallisters in the English phone books. It begs the
question: who came first, the English Pallisers or the Spanish Pallisers? The
English paliser is said to derive from a ‘maker of palings and fences’. The
Spanish palicer is said to derive from someone who worked with fur pelts. So,
are these two distinct origins of the same surname? There were Pallisers in Catalonia at least from the mid-16th
century. From the Menorcan Pallisers descends Francisco
Sintes Pellicer, an activist and one of the founding families of Nassau
County, Florida. Those from MENORCA
have been uploaded to WorldConnect at Rootsweb. Those from mainland SPAIN are
still being worked on. |
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UNGROUPED PALLISERS &
VARIANTS |
Various origins, unsorted |
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I have had odd emails and letters from various people looking for their
roots. For various reasons, these Pallisers' origins do not make themselves
clear from my databases, either because of missing data, or because I have
not studied them closely enough yet. |
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PALSER & PELSER |
Various origins, unsorted |
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I have had odd emails and letters from various people looking for their
roots. For various reasons, these Palliser's origins do not make themselves
clear from my databases, either because of missing data, or because I have
not studied them closely enough yet. |
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